Scriptures about church… as we live them #4

Alan Knox runs a great website called The Assembling of the Church which touches on many of the issues tackled in the book Pagan Christianity that we are discussing from a different angle. One series that he does is called “Scripture… as we live it”, where he ‘edits’ bible verses to expose how we sometimes do church unbiblically. I think it’s a great concept. Here’s a slightly changed example of how Alan thinks we often live out Scripture:
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I desire then that in every place the men should pray, lifting holy hands bow their heads and close their eyes without anger or quarreling agreeing with the pastoral prayer… (1 Timothy 2:8 re-mix)
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I have often wondered why we don’t get more time to pray together in church services – sort of all at the same time with our hands in the air like Paul instructs here. When last did you practice this Scripture properly in church? Was it a good experience? Obviously our sisters are exempted by Paul for this one, perhaps on account of weak arms… 😉

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Scriptures about church… as we live them #3

Alan Knox runs a great website called The Assembling of the Church which touches on many of the issues tackled in the book Pagan Christianity that we are discussing from a different angle. One series that he does is called “Scripture… as we live it”, where he ‘edits’ bible verses to expose how we sometimes do church unbiblically. I think it’s a great concept. Here is an example of how Alan thinks we often live out Scripture today:
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And God has appointed in the church first apostles although they won’t be around much longer, second prophets but you won’t need them after getting this letter, third teachers – you’ll always, always, always need teachers, then miracles which will obviously stop soon, then gifts of healing which will stop along with miracles, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues which will also stop – so mainly just teachers, administrators, and their helpers. (1 Corinthians 12:28 re-mix)
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Do you agree with Alan? Have we elevated teaching above other important leadership functions and lost some of the experiences of the Holy Spirit Paul is talking about here?

Scriptures about church… as we live them #2

Alan Knox runs a great website called The Assembling of the Church which touches on many of the issues tackled in the book Pagan Christianity that we are discussing from a different angle. One series that he does is called “Scripture… as we live it”, and I think it’s a great concept. Here is another example of how Alan thinks we live Scripture today:
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Let two or three prophets the pastor or someone he designates speak, and let the others weigh learn from what is said. If a revelation is made to another sitting there, let the first that person be silent. For you can all prophesy one by one one pastor can speak per week, so that all may learn and all be encouraged, and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets the desires and plans of the pastors.
(1 Corinthians 14:29-32 re-mix)
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Do you think we are living out this Scripture more according to the remix than the original?

Scriptures about church… as we live them #1

Alan Knox runs a great website called The Assembling of the Church which touches on many of the issues tackled in Pagan Christianity from a different angle. One series that he does is called “Scripture… as we live it”. I think it’s a great concept and I want to use some of the posts from this series here now and then. Here is an example to start with:
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What then, brothers? When you come together, each one has a hymn, a lesson, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation find a place to sit, sing along with the band or choir, and listen to the preacher. Let all things be done for building up as prescribed by your leaders. (1 Corinthians 14:26 remix)
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I’d love to hear your thoughts…

Pagan Christianity Discussion – The order of worship: Sunday mornings set in concrete

This is the fifth installment of our series covering Pagan Christianity, the book by Frank Viola and George Barna. In this post we look at their chapter on the order of worship. Their basic question is: “Why have we been doing basically the same things in church every Sunday for the last 500 hundred years when they are mostly not found in the bible and also often unhelpful?” The authors claim that, despite slight variations, most Protestant Christians across the world go through the same predictable rituals every time they attend church – rituals closer to those of Roman Catholicism than they realize.

They assert that the last church service you went to probably contained most of the following elements (and probably in this order): Continue reading